In a woman’s world, you don’t earn any social points for staking out an extreme position and defending it against all comers. Men might garner respect for doing so, and experience the exhilaration of battle along the way; women are more likely find themselves on the receiving end of some serious social isolation, and to find the road to this isolation stressful and frightening.
--on Neo-neocon from Bookworm Room.
Steady Eddie and I had a screaming fight last night.
I was trying to explain to him that women simply cannot be as direct as men can when they are communicating either a strong opinion or their accomplishments. And I lost my last shred of patience because he could not understand why I cannot be direct, like a man, in situations where I have to explain my value to them.
Men aren't considered "boastful" or "immodest" if they talk about what they've done, who they know.
Women, on the other hand, are told they are braggarts, or bitches.
The most common term for a woman who either talks about her accomplshments or has a strong opinion is "bitch." It might even be the tamest of all the things she could be called.
Men are only "bastards" when they've done something awful--when they've cheated others or when they've been cruel in some other way.
It's amazing how a woman speaking about herself or sepaking her mind, is almost the same as a man who beats up his mate.
For women, it is important to be polite, indirect, sensitive to other's feelings, modest, and perceived as going with the flow. If a woman tows the party line and dosen't rock the boat--accepts who is leading and never raises a doubt--she will be fine. If she doesn't particularly care for her place in the pecking order, and knows she is more than the group she is with, she cannot challenge the status quo. She has to either move on or move away.
She cannot assert herself with the Alpha Male of whatever group, even if he isn't all that Alpha. Challenging a man can be just as bad, in a different way, than challenging a woman. In working class groups, women are not supposed to be smarter than the men. They must play down who they are and what they are about. But that isn't necessarily a working class thing...it's more a problem with too many Beta Males and not enough Real Men.
So, Steady Eddie's question, "Why can't you just tell them you won't do it if you don't get paid?" is not that easy to answer. If I tell them, it must be diplomatic, calm, conciliatory and self-effacing. I can't do it the way a man might, with the "I'm too important for you folks," attitude that men can take. If I do that, I risk alienating people and burning bridges.
I like the simple, clean direct communication style of men. I dislike the manner in which women are not just censored by the group, but by their own kind. Lots of women might say this has to do with Patriarchal Oppression, but, from observing women in single gender atmospheres, and reading about the ways they communicate, I think it has far more to do with the way we evolved--the need to be in groups for survival--than it does with any "patriarchy."
There are stories about how the queen bee, when mature, has to leave the hive and start her own. Maybe I've simply outgrown this hive.
Note: I've also observed that when a woman has gained status, and a certain level of accpetance, she can indeed say who she is and state her opinion. The problem occurs when you are just one of many trying to assert identity. That's when the swarms begin.
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Communication is an interesting subject. I've gotten myself into trouble a few times for being too direct, mostly when I'm hurt. And when I was pregnant, I swear the hormones did something to the part of my brain that censors speech. I said things that even shocked me a few times.
And you know, I think I have this expectation that men will be more direct. I have a friend who's very diplomatic and it drives me nuts that he won't just cut to the chase. There's always subtext to wade through with him.
It's funny how there can be so much overlap! My ex husband (and some of my boyfriends) were so passive-aggressive with their communication that I'd go bonkers! there's def. that sense of wanting to shake the words out of them.
and it's really weird when guys say that they want a woman who will be direct, yet end up with the girl who's very indirect.
people are funny, that's for sure.
You know, black people have the same issue...
The self-censorship you speak of that women push on each other happens when I communicate with black folks sometimes.
It's sad...it's those two little dirty words... male privilege.
Personally, I love a woman that can share her thoughts and feelings in a direct, unabashed and unafraid manner.
thanks, derek, for raising that issue and posting the link...
you're right about black people. back in nj, where my husband and I both had alot of black friends (yes, to some that might sound racist, but it's the only way to say it) we noticed that so many of the young people, who were solidly middle class and *never* set foot in the 'hood, felt that they had to act like they were from the 'hood in order to fit in....it was like it was expected of them even though they had no clue about that life (and neither did their parents.)
It was creepy and strange.
and big thanks for that link to (of all places) Alas, A Blog. There are so many things on that list that just hit me right in the heart. Things I often try to overlook but are always lurking. Sometimes I think men don't realize these sorts of things until they begin to love a woman who's stronger than some of the men they know. Then they begin to understand how that stuff works.
I was esp. struck by the observation about childless women. It's something that's been bothering me these days. The pressure to have children nowadays flies in the face of so much of the feminism I grew up with. Another thing that drives me bonkers sometimes.
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